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<p>National Library of Wales, MS 4811D.  Previously 
                        published: Kenneth Curry (ed.), New Letters of Robert
                        Southey, 2 vols (London and New York, 1965), I, pp.
                    172–174.</p>
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<head>336. Robert Southey to <ref target="people.html#WynnCharlesWW">Charles Watkin
                        Williams Wynn</ref>, <date when="1798-07-21">21 July 1798</date>
<note place="foot" resp="editors" type="headnote">Address: [deletions and readdress in another
                        hand] To/ C. W. Williams Wynn Esq<hi rend="sup">r</hi>. <del rend="strikethrough">Christ Church/ Oxford</del> / Lincolns Inn/
                        London<lb/>Stamped: OXFORD<lb/>Postmark: F/ JY/ 24/ 98<lb/>Endorsement: July
                        21 1798<lb/>MS: National Library of Wales, MS 4811D<lb/>Previously
                        published: Kenneth Curry (ed.), <title>New Letters of Robert
                        Southey</title>, 2 vols (London and New York, 1965), I, pp.
                    172–174.</note>
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<dateline rend="right">
<date when="1798-07-21">Saturday. 21<hi rend="sup">st</hi> July. 98.</date>
</dateline>
<salute>My dear Wynn</salute>
</opener>
<p rend="indent1"> Your request respecting your letters arrived too late. on
                    settling my papers here they were destroyed. old papers of any kind give I <del rend="strikethrough">am</del> believe more pain than pleasure, when the
                    circumstances they mention have ceased to exist – &amp; many are even forgotten.
                    I made a great blaze, &amp; however cold my quires of poetry were before, there
                    was certainly fire in them then. Stemmata quid faciunt<note n="1" place="foot" resp="editors">Decimus Junius Juvenalis (fl. AD late 1st and early 2nd
                        centuries), <title>Satire</title> 8, line 1. The Latin translates as ‘Of
                        what value are pedigrees?’</note> went with the rest. it was an Auto da Fe
                    &amp; I burnt all that did not accord with my present poetical creed, like a
                    good Catholic. of the relics of old times your drawing only was preserved.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> I am glad you think an Union<note n="2" place="foot" resp="editors">After the defeat of the 1798 rising intense discussions about
                        the constitutional position of Ireland began in government circles. The
                        Prime Minister, William Pitt (1759–1806; <title>DNB</title>), favoured the
                        abolition of the Irish Parliament and a formal Union between Ireland and
                        Great Britain.</note> objectionable as it is, the best measure that can be
                    taken as to Ireland, because I consider it as the best termination for both
                    countries. Will not the cabal who have made the mischief oppose it?<note n="3" place="foot" resp="editors">Irish government was in the hands of a small
                        group of office-holders, most importantly, Robert Stewart, Viscount
                        Castlereagh, (1769–1822; <title>DNB</title>), the Chief Secretary for
                        Ireland 1797–1798; John Foster (1740–1828; <title>DNB</title>), Speaker of
                        the Irish House of Commons 1785–1800; John Fitzgibbon, Earl of Clare
                        (1749–1802; <title>DNB</title>), Lord Chancellor of Ireland 1789–1801; and
                        John Beresford (1738–1805; <title>DNB</title>), Chief Commissioner of
                        Revenue, 1780–1802.</note> &amp; if so a great weight would be thrown into
                    the rebel scale. I do not think a seperation desirable for Ireland, tho many of
                    the better Irish desire it, &amp; for England, I should think it not impossible
                    if Ireland were its enemy that France might one day be its conqueror. yet so
                    detestable does the system carried on there appear to me, that I should almost
                    rejoice to see the country delivered from its present yoke by any means.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> As to a special pleader<note n="4" place="foot" resp="editors">Wynn was attempting to persuade Southey to become a Special Pleader, an
                        expert in drafting ‘pleadings’ (the formal documents used in court). It was
                        usual to practice as a Special Pleader before being called to the
                        Bar.</note> you will use your own judgement. that office will be best where
                    most can be done in the least time. I do not think I can enter one before Xmas,
                    as family reasons will prevent it – &amp; I should be afraid of subjecting <ref target="people.html#FrickerEdith">Ediths</ref> health to the air &amp; the
                    confinement of London before it were better established.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> I cannot tell you how comfortable I feel the range of a house,
                    after living so long in lodgings. it is of considerable advantage also to me, as
                    I can have a room ready to enter at an early hour, &amp; have for this last week
                    work at ¼ after five as methodically as if <del rend="strikethrough">xx</del> an
                    alarum clock had summoned me. during these hours thus gained, have I been
                    travelling to Mathraval<note n="5" place="foot" resp="editors">The seat of the
                        Welsh Princes of Powys, mid-Wales.</note> &amp; heard the Hirlas song, &amp;
                    spent some little time with Rhys ap Gryffydh<note n="6" place="foot" resp="editors">Rhys ap Gruffydh (1132–1197; <title>DNB</title>), ruler of
                        the South Walian kingdom of Deheubarth.</note> at Dinevawr “the great
                        palace.<note n="7" place="foot" resp="editors">Dinefwr or Dinas Vawr (the
                        ‘great palace’) was the ancestral home of the rulers of Deheubarth; see
                        William Warrington (1776?–1852), <title>The History of Wales, In Nine
                            Books</title> (London, 1786), p. [151].</note> the company however that
                    has pleased me best has been that of the blind old Cynetha.<note n="8" place="foot" resp="editors">In Southey’s <title>Madoc</title> (1805),
                        Cynetha is a Welsh prince. The rightful ruler of Wales, he has been deposed,
                        blinded and castrated by Madoc’s father Owen Gwynedd.</note> Madoc has been
                    speaking of his father with high praise to <del rend="strikethrough">the</del>
                    Cynetha, not knowing him.</p>
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<l rend="indent3"> There were two brethren once, the old man replied,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Of royal line. they loved each other well,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And when the one was at his dying hour</l>
<l rend="indent3"> It was a comfort to him that he left</l>
<l rend="indent3"> So dear a brother, who would gladly pay</l>
<l rend="indent3"> A fathers duties to his orphan boy.</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And he did love the orphan, &amp; the boy</l>
<l rend="indent3"> With all a childs sincerity lovd him,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And learnt to call him father. So the years</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Past on, till when the orphan reached the age</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Of manhood, to the throne his Uncle came.</l>
<l rend="indent3"> The young man claimd a fair inheritance,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> His fathers lands; &amp; mark what followd Prince!</l>
<l rend="indent3"> At midnight he was seizd &amp; to his eyes</l>
<l rend="indent3"> The <del rend="strikethrough">bxxk</del> brazen plate was
                        held! – he lookd around</l>
<l rend="indent3"> His prison room for help. he only saw</l>
<l rend="indent3"> The ruffian forms that to the red-hot brass</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Forced his poor eyes, &amp; held the open lids</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Till the slow agony consumd the sense,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And when their hold relaxd, he would have given</l>
<l rend="indent3"> The wealth of worlds so he <del rend="strikethrough">could</del> &lt;might&gt; then have seen</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Their ruffian faces. – I am blind young Prince,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And I can tell how sweet a thing it is</l>
<l rend="indent3"> To see the blessed light!</l>
<l rend="indent6"> Must more be told?</l>
<l rend="indent3"> What farther agonies he yet endured?</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Or hast thou known the consummated crime</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And heard Cynetha’s fate?<note n="9" place="foot" resp="editors">A revised version of these lines appeared in Robert
                            Southey, <title>Madoc</title> (1805), Part 1, Book 3, lines
                            110–136.</note>
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<p>The part where Cynetha makes himself known is perhaps finer than this as the
                    images are not painful.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> The hours thus forced from sleep I think fairly belong to myself
                    – &amp; have made them unalienable from Madoc – like the sinking fund.<note n="10" place="foot" resp="editors">In theory, any surplus government revenue
                        was meant to be used to reduce the national debt, but for most of the
                        eighteenth century the money was diverted to other forms of expenditure. In
                        1786 the Prime Minister, William Pitt (1759–1806; <title>DNB</title>),
                        introduced legislation that ensured surplus revenue was inalienable and had
                        to be used to repay the national debt.</note> But I suspect my poem will be
                    done before the national debt is paid as I do not write one book &amp; plan
                    twenty. I think you would like what is done &amp; the ways before me </p>
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<l rend="indent3"> Are so exceeding spacious &amp; wyde,</l>
<l rend="indent3"> And sprinkled with such sweet variety</l>
<l rend="indent3"> Of all that pleasant is to eare or eye</l>
<l rend="indent3"> That I – my tedious travel do forget thereby<note n="11" place="foot" resp="editors">An adaptation of Edmund Spenser (1552–1599;
                                <title>DNB</title>), <title>The Faerie Queene</title>, Book 6, Proem
                            1, lines 3–7.</note>
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<salute rend="indent1"> God bless you</salute>
<salute rend="indent2"> yrs affectionately</salute>
<signed rend="indent3"> R. Southey.</signed>
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<postscript>
<p>The Vision<note n="12" place="foot" resp="editors">‘The Vision of the Maid of
                            Orleans’, a revised version of material originally in the ninth book of
                                <title>Joan of Arc, An Epic Poem</title> (1796), appeared in
                                <title>Poems</title>, 2 vols (Bristol, 1799), II, pp. [1]–69.</note>
                        will of course be the same size as the poem<note n="13" place="foot" resp="editors">The second edition of <title>Joan of Arc</title>,
                            published earlier in 1798.</note> – to sell with it. I do not agree with
                        you about the drunkenness lines.<note n="14" place="foot" resp="editors">See
                            Robert Southey, <title>Joan of Arc, An Epic Poem</title> (Bristol and
                            London, 1796), p. 341.</note> there are some before – <del rend="strikethrough">I think</del> page 334<note n="15" place="foot" resp="editors">Probably Robert Southey, <title>Joan of Arc, An Epic
                                Poem</title> (Bristol and London, 1796), pp. 337–338.</note> that
                        are lamentable in that way.</p>
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