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<p>Bristol Reference Library,
                        B20862.  Previously  published: Kenneth Curry (ed.),
                            New Letters of Robert Southey, 2 vols
                        (London and New York, 1965), I, pp.
                    220–223.</p>
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<head>484. Robert Southey to <ref target="people.html#SoutheyTom">Thomas Southey</ref>,
                        <date when="1800-02-02">2–3 February 1800</date>
<note place="foot" resp="editors" type="headnote">Address:
                        To/ Lieutenant Thomas Southey/ Bellona/ Torbay/
                        Single<lb/>MS: Bristol Reference Library,
                        B20862<lb/>Previously published: Kenneth Curry (ed.),
                            <title>New Letters of Robert Southey</title>, 2 vols
                        (London and New York, 1965), I, pp.
                    220–223.</note>
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<opener>
<salute>My dear Tom</salute>
</opener>
<p rend="indent1"> My letter must have reached you while yours
                    was on the road. <ref target="people.html#SoutheyMargaret">my mothers</ref> desk arrived safely – &amp; <ref target="people.html#SoutheyHenryHerbert">Harry</ref> has
                    rigged himself with the money you sent.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> My life is almost as uniform as yours, &amp;
                    as barren of all occurrencies wherewith to fill a letter. we
                    are both perpetually busy in unvarying employments. the
                    knowledge of this makes me an unfrequent correspondent – to
                    write is only to spin out into a sheetfull information not
                    more than the answer to a How d’ye do <del rend="strikethrough">?</del> – question. You ask me my
                    opinion of peace. nothing but a series of defeats or a
                    change of ministers can give it to us. the answer to
                    Bonapartes offers is the most clumsy piece of insolence
                    &amp; inconceivable stupidity that ever disgraced an
                    obstinate minister.<note n="1" place="foot" resp="editors">As soon as Napoleon took power in the Brumaire coup of
                        November 1799 he instituted a number of peace feelers
                        towards members of the Second Coalition. William Wyndham
                        Grenville, Baron Grenville (1759–1834; Foreign Secretary
                        1791–1801; <title>DNB</title>), gave a lengthy speech to
                        the House of Lords on 27 January 1800 outlining the
                        history of the French approaches and explaining why the
                        British government had declined to negotiate.</note>
                    they cannot treat with France because she does not
                    acknowledge herself the aggressor – France had made no such
                    acknowledgement when they treated last. They cannot treat
                    because the French government has not existed long enough.
                    the then French government had existed <hi rend="ital">not
                        so long</hi> when they treated last. they would treat if
                    France restored her old monarchy – yet they disclaim <del rend="strikethrough">xx</del> the idea of forcing a
                    government of their chusing upon France – &amp; yet they
                    continue the war because France chuses one herself. &amp;
                    this is all <hi rend="ital">except</hi> personal insults to
                    Bonaparte! &amp; all these absurdities &amp; contradictions
                    are in the note – &amp; for these reasons we are to have
                    another campaign &amp; another expedition! Amen – so be
                    it!</p>
<p rend="indent1"> In the mean time what have our ministers done
                    – they have intercepted some Letters from Egypt – they have
                    forged others – they have put these papers into the hands of
                        <ref target="people.html#GiffordWilliam">Giffard</ref>
                    the satirist – who has interlarded them with the rankest
                    &amp; most virulent abuse of Bonaparte – they have published
                    all this by Authority – &amp; thus contrived to <del rend="strikethrough">xxxxx</del> throw another obstacle
                    in the way of peace – by rendering themselves the personal
                    enemies of the Chief Consul.<note n="2" place="foot" resp="editors">Probably <title>Copies of Original
                            Letters from the Army of General Bonaparte in
                            Egypt</title> (1798), which had gone into numerous
                        expanded editions since its first publication by the
                        loyalist bookseller and propagandist John Wright
                        (1770/71–1844; <title>DNB</title>).</note> Good God
                    admitting that he was the worst of all rascals – what is
                    that to us? – they have as much right to force a wise
                    governor upon us, as we have to force an honest one upon
                    them. &amp; when this man whom they so vilify – is Napoleone
                    Bonaparte! – I do not justify his assumption of power – let
                    the use he makes of it, do that. but in reviewing his past
                    conduct – what I privately know of his youth – what all the
                    world know of his actions – the rank he holds as a general –
                    the views he entertains as a philosopher – the feelings
                    which made him in the career of victory the advocate of
                    peace – I do not hesitate in pronouncing him the greatest
                    man that events have called into action since Alexander of
                        Macedon.<note n="3" place="foot" resp="editors">Alexander III, the Great (356–323 BC; King of Macedonia
                        336–323 BC).</note> – And for what is the valour of
                    Englishmen to be exerted, is the treasure &amp; the blood of
                    the country to be drained? to aggrandize Austria – &amp; to
                    restore the worthless Bourbons<note n="4" place="foot" resp="editors">The ruling dynasty of France since
                        1589.</note> to that throne, from which for so many
                    years they harrassed &amp; distressed this country!! as if
                    this were possible! – if Bonaparte could land a million of
                    Frenchmen in England do you believe that he could compel the
                    English to submit to a government of French fashion? &amp;
                    have not Frenchmen the same feeling of indignation? have
                    they not the spirit of men – &amp; numbers enough to trample
                    under foot all the savages of Tartary<note n="5" place="foot" resp="editors">Russia was a member of the
                        Second Coalition formed in 1798.</note> that can be
                    pourd among them?</p>
<p rend="indent1"> There is a dawn of hope but a feeble one in
                    the sentiments expressed by some of the House of Lords<note n="6" place="foot" resp="editors">William Wyndham
                        Grenville had given a speech to the House of Lords on 27
                        January 1800 on the government’s refusal to negotiate
                        with Napoleon; it had been heavily criticised by Whig
                        Peers like Francis Russell, 5th Duke of Bedford
                        (1765–1802; <title>DNB</title>).</note> – they continue
                    to vote with the Minister but blame him for not negotiating.
                    – &amp; the debates in the Commons have been twice delayed
                    because some of the Members have qualms of conscience to be
                    settled. Could we but shake off these accursed ministers –
                    could we but once see the activity &amp; the courage &amp;
                    the wealth of England well employed – what might we not hope
                    for! </p>
<p rend="indent1"> Enough of politics – in what has been said my
                    own peculiar notions have not intruded – they are the
                    arguments which must occur to every man whose interest has
                    not hoodwinkd his common sense. </p>
<p rend="indent1">
<ref target="people.html#LloydCharles">Lloyds</ref>
                    direction is simply Cambridge. what you say about <ref target="people.html#ColeridgeSamuelTaylor">Coleridge</ref> could only be answered by entering into
                    particulars, which, as they do not <del rend="strikethrough">neither</del> interest you, &amp; would not amuse you,
                    may as well be omitted. With <ref target="people.html#LloydCharles">Lloyd</ref> I have no
                    quarrel. he remains an acquaintance, whose faults cannot
                    injure <del rend="strikethrough">xxx</del>, &amp; <del rend="strikethrough">therefore</del> shall not irritate
                    me. I had long understood his character, &amp; what I learnt
                    at <ref target="places.html#Stowey">Stowey</ref> in
                    confirmation of it was not from <ref target="people.html#ColeridgeSamuelTaylor">Coleridge</ref>.<note n="7" place="foot" resp="editors">Thomas Poole had written to Southey on 8 August 1799
                        about Lloyd’s conduct (E.L. Griggs (ed.), <title>The
                            Collected Letters of Samuel Taylor
                        Coleridge</title>, 6 vols (Oxford, 1956–1971), I, p.
                        286).</note> I had long known that no dependance could
                    be placed upon his <hi rend="ital">conduct</hi> – &amp; is
                    it strange that his <hi rend="ital">word</hi> should be as
                    little to be relied on? yet I do not impute this to
                    conscious falshood – but to an instability of mind – perhaps
                    a derangement. </p>
<p rend="indent1"> You will I suppose be more at leisure, &amp;
                    may possibly come home during the summer. if I do not go
                    abroad before the Autumn I shall pass the spring &amp;
                    summer at <ref target="places.html#Burton">Burton</ref>.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> As you are so fond of Taunton I wish you were
                    settled there. the country in that neighbourhood which you
                    have never seen is so beautiful, that I should much like to
                    be in reach of it sometimes. beyond all comparison the North
                    of Somersetshire is the most beautiful part of England that
                    I have ever seen. &amp; if only beauty of landscape were to
                    influence me in choice of a residence – I should at once fix
                    on Porlock.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> To Bristol I grow more attached. my intimacy
                    with <ref target="people.html#DavyHumphry">Davy</ref> makes
                    it more agreable than it ever was before to me. if the <ref target="places.html#CollegeGreenBristol">College
                        Green</ref> were but transplanted among the Hottentots
                    then might <ref target="people.html#SoutheyMargaret">my
                        Mother</ref> live here in peace.</p>
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<salute rend="indent1"> God bless you. <ref target="people.html#FrickerEdith">Edith</ref> &amp;
                            <ref target="people.html#SoutheyHenryHerbert">Harrys</ref> remembrance.</salute>
<signed rend="indent2"> Robert Southey.</signed>
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<ref target="places.html#KingsdownParade">Kingsdown.</ref>
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<date when="1800-02-02">Feb<hi rend="sup">y</hi>. 2.
                            1800.</date>
</p>
<p rend="indent1"> The second Anthology<note n="8" place="foot" resp="editors">
<title>Annual
                                Anthology</title> (1800).</note> will soon be
                        published. you have never had the first yet. where shall
                        they be directed?</p>
<p rend="indent1"> NB. I drink Port Wine plentifully &amp;
                        “suck air out of a bag.”<note n="9" place="foot" resp="editors">Southey had participated in
                            experiments with nitrous oxide at the Pnuematic
                            Medical Institution, Bristol. These involved
                            inhaling the gas from a green bag. Its effects on
                            Southey were described in Thomas Beddoes,
                                <title>Notice of Some Observations Made at the
                                Medical Pneumatic Institution</title> (Bristol,
                            1799), p. 11; and Humphry Davy, <title>Researches,
                                Chemical and Philosophical, Chiefly Concerning
                                Nitrous Oxide, or Dephlogisticated Nitrous Air,
                                and Its Respiration</title> (London, 1800), pp.
                            507–509. They were also parodied in ‘The Pneumatic
                            Revellers, An Eclogue’, <title>Anti-Jacobin
                                Review</title>, 6 (May 1800) 109–118 (esp.
                            115–116).</note>
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<date when="1800-02-03">Feb<hi rend="sup">y</hi>
                            3.</date> Yours has just reached me. I am glad you
                        have got S<hi rend="sup">t</hi> Pierres book.<note n="10" place="foot" resp="editors">Jacques-Henri
                            Bernardin de Saint Pierre (1737–1814), <title>Paul
                                et Virginie</title> (1787).</note> it is full of
                        genius, &amp; of hints which ought to be pursued. the
                            bottle-experiment<note n="11" place="foot" resp="editors">Tom Southey took up his brother’s
                            suggestion and in 1802 threw a number of bottles
                            containing messages overboard in mid-Atlantic. One
                            was washed up in the Bahamas and the message was
                            posted to Tom’s brother in England; see Robert
                            Southey to Thomas Southey, 22 April 1803, Letter
                            775.</note> I have often wished to have generally
                        tried. – <ref target="places.html#Burton">Burton</ref>
                        is by no means an unwholesome place. I <hi rend="ital">took</hi> my complaint with me from <ref target="places.html#Westbury">Westbury</ref> &amp;
                            <ref target="people.html#SoutheyMargaret">my
                            mother</ref> was never better anywhere.<note n="12" place="foot" resp="editors">‘Feb<hi rend="sup">y</hi> 3 ... anywhere’: inserted upside down at
                            top of fol. 1 r.</note>
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