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<p>Huntington Library, RS
                        12.  Previously  published: Charles Cuthbert Southey (ed.), Life and
                            Correspondence of Robert Southey, 6 vols (London, 1849-1850),
                        II, pp. 174-177 [in part]; Orlo Williams, Lamb’s Friend the
                            Census-Taker. Life and Letters of John Rickman (Boston and New
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<head>629. Robert Southey to <ref target="people.html#RickmanJohn">John
                        Rickman</ref>, <date when="1801-11-20">20 November [1801]</date>
<note place="foot" resp="editors" type="headnote">Address: To/ M<hi rend="sup">r</hi> John Rickman Esq<hi rend="sup">r</hi>
<lb/>Endorsement: R.S./ Nov. 20,/ 1801<lb/>MS: Huntington Library, RS
                        12<lb/>Previously published: Charles Cuthbert Southey (ed.), <title>Life and
                            Correspondence of Robert Southey</title>, 6 vols (London, 1849-1850),
                        II, pp. 174-177 [in part]; Orlo Williams, <title>Lamb’s Friend the
                            Census-Taker. Life and Letters of John Rickman</title> (Boston and New
                        York, 1912), pp. 61-63 [in part].</note>
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<p rend="indent1"> The <ref target="people.html#CorryIsaac">Chancellor</ref> &amp;
                    the Scribe<note n="1" place="foot" resp="editors">Southey.</note> go on in the
                    same way. the Scribe hath made out a catalogue of all books published since the
                    commencement of 97 upon finance &amp; scarcity. he hath also copied a paper
                    written by J. R.<note n="2" place="foot" resp="editors">John Rickman.</note>
                    containing some Irish Aldermans hints about oak bark, &amp; nothing more hath
                    the Scribe done in his vocation. duly he calls at the <ref target="people.html#CorryIsaac">Chancellor’s</ref> door – sometimes he
                    is admitted to immediate audience, sometimes kicketh he his heels in the
                    antechamber (once he kicked them for cold, but now there is a fire), – sometimes
                    a gracious message emancipates Him for the day. secresy hath been enjoined to
                    him as to these state proceedings. – on three subjects he is directed to read
                    &amp; research – corn-laws – finance – tythes – according to their written
                    order. alas! they are heathen Greek to the Scribe! he hath indeed in days of old
                    read Adam Smith,<note n="3" place="foot" resp="editors">Adam Smith (1723-1790;
                            <title>DNB</title>), <title>The Wealth of Nations</title> (1776).</note>
                    &amp; remembereth the general principle established. he pre-supposeth that about
                    corn, as about every thing else, the fewer laws the better. of finance he is
                    even more ignorant. concerning the tythes, something knoweth he of the Levitical
                        Law,<note n="4" place="foot" resp="editors">
<title>Leviticus</title> 27:
                        30-32 states that one tenth (a tithe) of agricultural produce should be used
                        for maintaining the priests and the Tabernacle.</note> somewhat approveth he
                    of a commutation for Land, something suspecteth he why they are to be altered.
                    gladly would the people buy off the burden – gladly would the government receive
                    the purchase money. the Scribe <del rend="strikethrough">xxxx</del> see-eth
                    objections thereunto – Meantime sundry are the paragraphs that have been
                    imprinted respecting the <ref target="people.html#CorryIsaac">Chancellor</ref>
                    &amp; the Scribe. they have &lt;been&gt; compared – (in defiance of the
                    Butleraboo statute)<note n="5" place="foot" resp="editors">‘Butler aboo’ was the
                        war cry of the Butlers, one of Ireland’s most powerful Norman families. The
                        Irish Parliament had banned such war cries as far back as 1495, as they
                        provoked conflicts.</note> – to Empson &amp; Dudley.<note n="6" place="foot" resp="editors">Richard Empson (d. 1510; <title>DNB</title>) and Edmund
                        Dudley (c. 1462-1510; <title>DNB</title>), two unpopular tax
                        collectors.</note> &amp; Peter Porcupine<note n="7" place="foot" resp="editors">‘Peter Porcupine’, the pseudonym of William Cobbett
                        (1763-1835; <title>DNB</title>), journalist and pamphleteer, who later
                        became a leading radical.</note> hath civilly expressed a hope that the Poet
                    will make no false <hi rend="ital">numbers</hi>, in his new works. sometimes the
                    Poet is called a Jacobine, at others it is said his opinions are revolutionized.
                    the <ref target="people.html#CorryIsaac">Chancellor</ref> asked him if he would
                    enter a reply in that independent paper whose lying name is the True
                        Briton.<note n="8" place="foot" resp="editors">The <title>True
                            Briton</title> was a conservative newspaper, published from 1793 to
                        1803.</note> a paper over which the <ref target="people.html#CorryIsaac">Chancellor</ref> implied he had some influence. the Poet replied no – that
                    those flea bites itched only if they were scratched. the Scribe hath been
                    courteously treated, &amp; introduced to a M<hi rend="sup">r</hi> Ormsby<note n="9" place="foot" resp="editors">Mr Ormsby’s identity is unclear. He might
                        have been either Joseph Mason Ormsby (1761-1820), MP for Gorey in the Irish
                        Parliament 1799-1800, or Owen Ormsby (d. 1804) of Willowbrook, County
                        Sligo.</note> – &amp; this is all he knoweth of the home politics.</p>
<p rend="center">________ </p>
<p>
<ref target="people.html#BurnettGeorge">Burnetts</ref> Essay may be entitled Much
                    ado about nothing.<note n="10" place="foot" resp="editors">Burnett had just
                        written a lengthy metaphysical essay; see Rickman to Robert Southey, 7
                        November 1801, in Orlo Williams, <title>Lamb’s Friend the Census Taker. Life
                            and Letters of John Rickman</title> (Boston and New York, 1912), pp.
                        57-58.</note> it is well written in <del rend="strikethrough">xxx</del> its
                    way– but a damned ugly long flat way it is. these metaphysicians teaze me –
                    wire-spinning – &amp; gold-beating their meaning – if they have to tell you the
                    amount of ten times ten – they take an hour in getting at the sum unit by unit.
                    I am sorry you did not see his letter to me. <hi rend="ital">that</hi> is
                    curious. it is the history of his own mind – the out-blaze of a vanity that has
                    been smoaking under green weeds for seven good years. written with warmth &amp;
                    feeling. for the subject was at his heart &amp; in his heart. if he could but be
                    as animated by any thing else – it would do. a fair trial of the Trade will do
                    him good. at work he is, &amp; where no great dispatch is needful <ref target="people.html#BurnettGeorge">George</ref> can work as well as any of
                        M<hi rend="sup">r</hi> Phillips’s<note n="11" place="foot" resp="editors">Sir Richard Phillips (1767-1840; <title>DNB</title>),
                        publisher and proprietor of the <title>Monthly Magazine</title>.</note>
                    merry-men. when he has found out that his metaphysics are not saleable, that he
                    has not quickness enough ever to acquire much knowledge, &amp; that what
                    knowledge he has is not ready at need, then I suppose he will condescend to the
                    common employments of life. poor fellow! – he would think himself degraded by
                    giving to boys the elements of learning – &amp; yet he will write for M<hi rend="sup">r</hi> Phillips’ hire – restricted as to subject &amp; even as to
                    pages – &amp; under D<hi rend="sup">r</hi> Mavors name!<note n="12" place="foot" resp="editors">William Fordyce Mavor (1758-1837; <title>DNB</title>),
                        clergyman, schoolmaster and writer. Burnett was working on his
                            <title>Universal History, Ancient and Modern</title> (1802), which was
                        published by Phillips.</note> if this be not gnat-straining &amp; camel
                    swallowing with a vengeance! – he should be sowing the grain – &amp; he will be
                    making the bread.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> A week has passed since the arrival of your packet – &amp; I
                    begin to be surprized that the bills have not reached me.</p>
<p rend="center">_________</p>
<p>Ευρηκα. Ευρηκα – Ευρηκα –<note n="13" place="foot" resp="editors">The Greek
                        translates as ‘I have found it. I have found it. I have found it’,
                        reportedly shouted by the Greek inventor Archimedes (c. 287-c. 212 BC) when
                        he discovered the law of displacement and leapt from his bath to run naked
                        through the streets of Syracuse proclaiming his news.</note>
</p>
<p rend="indent1">You remember your heretical proposition de Cambro-Britannis – that
                    the principality<note n="14" place="foot" resp="editors">i.e. Wales.</note> had
                    never <del rend="strikethrough">&amp; never could</del> produced &amp; never
                    could produce a great man. that I opposed Owen Glendwr<note n="15" place="foot" resp="editors">Owen Glendower (c. 1354/9-c. 1416; <title>DNB</title>), last
                        independent ruler in Wales.</note> – &amp; Sir Henry Morgan<note n="16" place="foot" resp="editors">Sir Henry Morgan (c. 1635-1688;
                            <title>DNB</title>), privateer in the Caribbean.</note> to the assertion
                    but in vain. but I have found the Great man – &amp; not merely the Great man –
                    the Maximus homo – the μεγιςος άνδρωπος – the μεγιςστατος<note n="17" place="foot" resp="editors">The Greek translates as ‘the greatest man – the
                        very great man – the very greatest’.</note> – we must create a
                    super-superlative to reach the idea of his magnitude. I found &lt;him&gt; in
                        <ref target="places.html#Strand">the Strand</ref> – in a shop window –
                    laudably therein exhibited by a Cambro-Briton. the Engraver represents him
                    sitting in a room – that seems to be of a cottage or at best – a farm – pen in
                    hand – eyes-uplifted. &amp; underneath is inscribed </p>
<p rend="center">The Cambrian Shakespear</p>
<p>but woe is me for my ignorance – the motto that followed surpassed my skill in
                    language – tho it doubtless was a delectable morsel from that Great Welshmans
                    poems. You must however allow the justice of the name given him. for all his
                    writings are in Welsh – &amp; the Welshmen say he is as great a man as
                    Shakespear, &amp; they must know. because they can understand him. I enquired
                    what might be the trivial name of this light &amp; lustre of our dark age – but
                    it hath escaped me – only that it meant, being interpreted, – either
                    Tom-a-Denbigh – or some such everyday baptismal denomination.<note n="18" place="foot" resp="editors">Thomas Edwards (1739-1810; <title>DNB</title>),
                        or ‘Twm o’r Nant’. Welsh poet and writer of interludes, dubbed the ‘Cambrian
                        Shakespeare’ by his admirers.</note> – And now am I no prophet if you [MS
                    torn] not before you have arrived thus far uttered a three-worded sentence of
                    malediction.</p>
<p rend="indent1"> I have not yet felt leisure enough to look for the Goul<note n="19" place="foot" resp="editors">‘The Goul’ was a nickname for a Mr
                        Simonds (or Simmonds), who worked for Rickman on the 1801 Census; see
                        Rickman to Robert Southey, 7 November 1801, in Orlo Williams, <title>Lamb’s
                            Friend the Census Taker. Life and Letters of John Rickman</title>
                        (Boston and New York, 1912), p. 58.</note> – so many acquaintance are daily
                    finding me out. to day I go dine with <ref target="people.html#FoxLordHolland3">Lord Holland</ref> – <ref target="people.html#WynnCharlesWW">Wynn</ref> is
                    intimate with him &amp; my invitation is for the sake of Thalaba. the sale of
                    Thalaba is slow – <del rend="strikethrough">not</del> about 300 only gone.</p>
<p rend="indent1">
<ref target="people.html#DyerGeorge">George Dyer</ref> has just been here. his
                    disorder he said required a violent exertion to remedy it. <ref target="people.html#LambCharles">Lamb</ref> has made a perfect cure. thank
                    you for that nonpareil letter.<note n="20" place="foot" resp="editors">Probably
                        the letter from George Dyer published in Orlo Williams, <title>Lamb’s Friend
                            the Census Taker. Life and Letters of John Rickman</title> (Boston and
                        New York, 1912), pp. 59-60.</note>
<ref target="people.html#FrickerEdith">Ediths</ref> remembrance – </p>
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<salute rend="indent1"> yrs truly</salute>
<signed rend="indent2"> R Southey.</signed>
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<date when="1801-11-20">Nov. 20</date>
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